Friday, 25 September 2020

Heads Unionists win. Tales Independistas lose

 There is a convention even in the UKs second chamber , that the house of Lords do not block bills which were in the winning parties at a General Election Manifesto.

Whether this will apply to a Scottish Second referendum if the SNP were to win next May''s Scottish Election remains to be seen.

Certainly the Unionist across the Lobby where the leaders of the Tories , Labour and te Liberal Democrats seem to indicate they will ignore any claim of a SNP/Green mandate at Holyrood and deny a request for a Second Referendum.



Asked if he would listen if Scots tell him they want independence, Davey said he thought people will find the constitutional arguments a "distraction" - if they are even talking about them at all.


He said: "I think even the strongest proponents of independence would say ‘let's focus on the things that matter, let's not get extra disruptions or distractions'.

"I genuinely think Scottish people from all sides of the question on independence will say 'this is not the time for constitutional questions, now is the time for helping people who are in distress, businesses that are in distress and people who are facing the loss of loved ones'.”

On the party's opposition to another independence referendum, he said: "The Liberal Democrats' policy on independence is set by the Scottish Liberal Democrats and always will be under my leadership.

"I know that they believe that Scotland is better in the family of nations."

Davey also compared the issue to the "self-indulgent" UK Government pushing to get a Brexit deal before January and not seeking an extension "when we've got one hell of a fight on our hands" because of coronavirus.

He went on to say that the "laserbeam-like focus" of Scottish LibDem leader Willie Rennie on the impact of coronavirus and the recovery could pay dividends.

"I think the other Unionist parties are not as strong as they've been in the run up to previous Holyrood elections and I think we have a real possibility of gaining momentum," 

So wining a election on the issue of Independence  is not a mandate , but naturally not winning means denying any calls.

Heads Unionists win. Tales Independistas lose!

Not that the Lieral Democrats in Scotland have any form of mandate from the Scottish People and  they must ride on the coattails of Labour and the Tories to claim one.

Scottish Parliament out of  129 seats (SNP 61)

Member of the Scottish ParliamentConstituency or RegionFirst electedSpokespersons[18]
Willie RennieNorth East Fife2011Leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats
Liam McArthurOrkney2007Justice and Energy
Beatrice WishartShetland2019Education
Alex Cole-HamiltonEdinburgh Western2016Health and housing
Mike RumblesNorth East Scotland2016Rural Affairs

House of Commons of the United Kingdom out of 59 Scottish seats (SNP 48)

Member of ParliamentConstituencyFirst electedNotes
Alistair CarmichaelOrkney and Shetland2001Only Lib Dem MP returned in the 2015 general election in Scotland.
Christine JardineEdinburgh West2017
Jamie StoneCaithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross2017Member of the Scottish Parliament for Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross between 1999 and 2011.
Wendy ChamberlainNorth East Fife2019

Only gain made by the Liberal Democrats in Scotland at the 2019 general election. Was previously the most marginal seat in the entire United Kingdom in 2017.

Recent polling, conducted between September 2 and 7, predicted the LibDems would win eight Holyrood seats, making them the smallest party in the Scottish parliament. If this happens and the SNP 9possibly with the Greens) win an overall majority on a electoral system designed to prevent this . I hope Ed Davey will explain why his party will still deny Indyref.2

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