Thursday, 22 September 2016

Lib Dem win In Plasnewedd may also be good news for Cardiff Plaid.

The Liberal Democrats are quite rightly celebrating  the gain of a Plasnewedd seat on Cardiff Council in a Byelection

Plasnewydd - results
Election CandidatePartyVotes%
 Robin Thomas ReaWelsh Liberal Democrats / Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol Cymru125848%Elected
 Peter WongWelsh Labour91035%Not elected
 Glenn Charles PagePlaid Cymru - The Party of Wales1777%Not elected
 Munawar Ahmed MughalWelsh Conservative Party1154%Not elected
 Michael David CopeWales Green Party / Plaid Werdd Cymru934%Not elected
 Lawrence GwynnUKIP622%Not elected
However it os on a seat that they really would have has to win if any revival was to come about
In 2012 they lost all of their four Plasnewedd seats  in a Labour Landslide throughout the city

asnewydd - results
Election CandidatePartyVotes%
 Sue LentLabour153511%Elected
 Daniel De'AthLabour143810%Elected
 Mary McGarryLabour143610%Elected
 Mohammad JavedLabour141310%Elected
 Rodney BermanLiberal Democrats136210%Not elected
 Geraldine NicholsLiberal Democrats13149%Not elected
 Richard JerrettLiberal Democrats12979%Not elected
 Elgan MorganLiberal Democrats12869%Not elected
 Tony MatthewsGreen5354%Not elected
 Askor AliPlaid Cymru5054%Not elected
 Mohammed HannanConservative4343%Not elected
 Edward ParishPlaid Cymru3442%Not elected
 Ian MullisPlaid Cymru3382%Not elected
 Enid HarriesConservative2322%Not elected
 Hannah MoscropConservative1931%Not elected
 Aled Jones-PritchardConservative1741%Not elected
 Marc GonzalezLabour1711%Not elected
Among the casualties was Rodney Berman  the then leader of the Council,

It is interesting to note that Mr Berman did not stand this time as did none of the defeated candidates in 2012..

This is I believe the first gain from Labour by any Party since 2012 in a series of Byelections in which the ruling group has faced constant scandal and internal fighting.

Indeed this Blogger has been amazed how they managed to hold these seats .

From a Plaid point of view although Plasnewedd seems to appear to be disappointing  if a similar pattern emerges in which the previous major challenging o Labour were to win .

This could see gains In Fairwater ( where they hold one seat)  Creigau and Riverside and if things went really bad for Labour Ely and Canton..You can see the previous ward results here.

Some have suggested an electoral pact for the Council elections between Plaid and the Libdems  in the wards were either party is first or second o Labour.

Would it work maybe not as people see through it

But irrespective of Labour UK squabbles the people of Cardiff surely need something better than the current Labour group .


Cibwr said...

Plaid have two of the seats in Fairwater.... Id add Grangetown to your list of possible gains for Plaid if things go badly for Labour.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for this. I couldn't find it anywhere else.

The verification process is ridiculous. Almost gave up!!!!

Anonymous said...

If you look at the actual numbers of votes both Lib Dems and Plaid for fewer votes than they did when they lost in 2012.

It's a matter of other voters (mainly labour) staying at home rather than the Lib Dems or Plaid gaining support.

Anonymous said...

The county council by-election in Carmarthenshire last night in Cilycwm was not so impressive for the Liberals.Their candidate came in sixth, but a lot better than the Tories who came last and only polled 15 votes. In the end it was a fight between Labour (3rd), Independent (2nd),the defending party and Plaid (1st). This is a continuation of a pattern of rural by-elections in rural Carmarthenshire with Independent seats falling to Plaid Cymru when long established candidates pass away.