STV in Scotland and FPTP in Wales. Which is best?

There is a sharp contrast between the make up of the local  authorities in Wales (First Past the Post) and Scotland  (Single Transferable Vote).

Both Nations have unitary authorities and it is clear that Labour are dominant in Wales, although they are thin on the ground  in Gwynedd, Ceredigion and Isle of Anglesey and having an MP I'n one  and the Tories despite getting a fair bit of support in Parliamentary Election have no councillors in Caerphilly, for example
Last update 4 May 2018.

Council	Control		Web	Total	LAB	PC	CON	LD	GP	Other	Vacant	Upcoming by-elections
Blaenau Gwent	IND	IND	URL	42	13	1				29
Bridgend	NOC	LAB...	URL	54	26	3	8	1		16
Caerphilly	LAB	maj	URL	73	50	18				5
Cardiff	LAB	maj	URL	75	40	2	20	11		2
Carmarthenshire	NOC	PC...	URL	74	22	37				15
Ceredigion	NOC	PC...	URL	42		20		8		14
Conwy	NOC	IND...	URL	59	8	8	16	4		23
Denbighshire	NOC	CON	URL	47	13	9	15			10
Flintshire	NOC	LAB...	URL	70	34		6	5		25
Gwynedd	PC	maj	URL	75	1	41		1		32
Isle of Anglesey	NOC	PC...	URL	30	2	14		1		13
Merthyr Tydfil	IND	maj	URL	33	15					18
Monmouthshire	CON	maj	URL	43	10		25	3		5
Neath Port Talbot	LAB	maj	URL	64	43	15		1		5
Newport	LAB	maj	URL	50	31		12	2		5
Pembrokeshire	IND	IND	URL	60	7	6	11	1		35
Powys	NOC	IND...	URL	73	7	2	20	13	1	30
Rhondda Cynon Taf	LAB	maj	URL	75	47	17	4	1		6
Swansea	LAB	maj	URL	72	48		9	7		8
Torfaen	LAB	maj	URL	44	29		4			11
Vale of Glamorgan	NOC	CON...	URL	47	14	4	23			6
Wrexham	NOC	IND...	URL	52	12	3	9	2		26

Such is the nature that the two major UK parties don't even put up a candidate in most wards in these council's elections.

 Compare this with Scotland where Labour's gaps are largely due to a tradition of Independent councillors .

Council	Control		Web	Total	SNP	CON	LAB	LD	GP	Other	Vacant
Aberdeen	NOC	CON+ALAB[s 1]+IND co	URL	45	19	11		3		12[s 1]
Aberdeenshire	NOC	CON+LD+IND co	URL	70	21	23	1	14	1	10
Angus	NOC	IND+CON+LD co	URL	28	9	8		2		9
Argyll & Bute	NOC	CON+LD+IND co[12]	URL	36	11	9		6		10
Clackmannanshire	NOC	SNP min[13]	URL	18	8	5	5
Dumfries & Galloway	NOC	LAB+SNP co	URL	43	11	16	10	1		5
Dundee	NOC	SNP+IND co	URL	29	14	3	9	2		1
East Ayrshire	NOC	SNP min	URL	32	14	6	9			3
East Dunbartonshire	NOC	LD+CON co[14]	URL	22	7	6	2	6		1
East Lothian	NOC	LAB min	URL	22	6	7	9
East Renfrewshire	NOC	SNP+LAB+IND co	URL	18	5	6	4			3
Edinburgh	NOC	SNP+LAB co[15]	URL	58	17	18	12	6	8	2
Eilean Siar	IND	IND	URL	31	7	2				22
Falkirk	NOC	SNP min[16]	URL	30	12	7	9			2
Fife	NOC	SNP+LAB j.l.[17]	URL	75	29	15	24	7
Glasgow	NOC	SNP min[18]	URL	85	39	8	31		7
Highland	NOC	IND+LD+LAB co	URL	74	19	10	3	10	1	31
Inverclyde	NOC	LAB min	URL	22	6	2	8	1		5
Midlothian	NOC	LAB min	URL	18	7	5	6
Moray	NOC	CON+IND co	URL	26	9	8	1			8
North Ayrshire	NOC	LAB min	URL	33	11	7	11			4
North Lanarkshire	NOC	LAB min	URL	77	33	9	33			2
Orkney	IND	IND	URL	21						21
Perth & Kinross	NOC	CON+LD+IND co	URL	40	15	17	1	4		3
Renfrewshire	NOC	SNP min	URL	43	19	8	13	1		2
Scottish Borders	NOC	CON+IND co	URL	34	9	14		2		9
Shetland	IND	IND	URL	22	1					21
South Ayrshire	NOC	SNP+LAB+IND p.w.	URL	28	9	12	5			2
South Lanarkshire	NOC	SNP min	URL	64	25	14	19	1		5
Stirling	NOC	SNP+LAB	URL	23	9	8	4		1	1
West Dunbartonshire	NOC	SNP+IND	URL	22	10	2	8			2
West Lothian	NOC	LAB min	URL	33	13	7	12			1

Recently there ave been cases of Labour and the Tories in Scotland forming a pact to keep out the SNP as happened in Aberdeen  (where they were expelled) and others where there seems to no action taken,.

One argument for the situation in Wales is that whilst it does not reflect the strength of the party at a Parliamentary  or Assembly election, it does the reflect the members on the ground.

It was a common practise for the Welsh Tories to select an aspiring candidate from outside Wales in unwinnable  seat whose longest span in the constituency and only sent out the free delivery election communication, was election day, where they outvoted Plaid who  had people constantly working on the doors,

Under STV parties do not have to select  45 candidates for Aberdeen for instance and concentrate on those parts of the city where they are strong ,  or rely on UK political "votes" to elect them

Is it possible that some candidates in Scotland won with virtually   no campaign.

This could be avoided however if the number of candidate nominations were raised to between 100-200  on the electoral registrar.

Parties largely of course support STV   when they are in a minority but when they become the largest party are frustrated that they fail to get overall control.

The only cases in Scotland that are labelled NOC are those run by Independents. .

 The Tories for example are the largest party in  Dumfries and Galloway

Dumfries & Galloway

NOC

LAB+SNP co

URL

43

11

16

10

1

5

But are kept out of power by a Lab+SNP coalition .

Is this fair?

Short of a additional ballot paper in which voters list their preferred "partnership"
I don't really see a way round it.

I support STV because I believe it is more democratic; but it would lead my friends in Gwynedd having to put up with Tory councillors.
Is that a price worth paying?