In the midst of the whole Brexit Farrago, only one Party can hold its head up high. It is of course the Liberal Democrats.
As they recently said in a Press release.
Nah its bollocks as Left Foot Forward report
It must be frustrating that they are still struggling to reach double figures in the polls and despite indication that the majority would now vote Remain the poor Lib Dems are still struggling to get to double figures.
They have form on their fibs though
At the last elections the Liberal Democrats in Mark Williams, the Lib Dems’ candidate for Ceredigion , where the main rival party is Plaid, has apologised for Facebook advertisements and leaflets that claimed Plaid Cymru were eeking a “Hard Brexit”.
Williams lost to Plaid's Ben Lake eventually lost and it may well be that this lie contributed to it as voters got fed up with the Lib Dems Fibs.
But this latter development is even worse as it undermines the whole "People Votes" campaign and one thing we don't need is that it is seen by voters as a cynical electoral ploy for one Party's electoral advantage.
As they recently said in a Press release.
Nah its bollocks as Left Foot Forward report
The press release (here) immediately sparked anger from, among others, Green Party activists – for the obvious reason that the Greens have backed a so-called ‘People’s Vote’ on the Brexit deal from early on.
The Greens’ 2017 manifesto stated:
“We will campaign for your right to vote on the final terms of the Brexit deal, including an option to stay in the EU.”
They won’t be the only ones rankled. As the Young Greens’ Nate Higgins noted on Twitter, the following other parties back a de facto second referendum:
- Scottish Green Party
- Green Party in Northern Ireland
- Plaid Cymru
- Scottish National Party
- Women’s Equality Party
- Social Democratic & Labour Party
- Alliance
It must be frustrating that they are still struggling to reach double figures in the polls and despite indication that the majority would now vote Remain the poor Lib Dems are still struggling to get to double figures.
| ate(s) conducted | Polling organisation/client | Area | Sample size | Con | Lab | Lib Dem | SNP | Plaid | UKIP | Green | Others | Lead |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8–12 Nov | Kantar Public | GB | 1,147 | 40% | 39% | 8% | 4% | 1% | 3% | 3% | 2% | 1% |
| 4–5 Nov | YouGov/Times | GB | 1,637 | 41% | 37% | 8% | 4% | 4% | 4% | 1% | 4% | |
| 20 Oct–2 Nov | Survation | UK | 20,090 | 39% | 40% | 8% | 3% | N/A | 3% | 2% | 3% | 1% |
| 29–30 Oct | YouGov/Times | GB | 1,648 | 41% | 39% | 7% | 4% | 5% | 2% | 0% | 2% | |
| 26–28 Oct | ICM | GB | 2,048 | 40% | 38% | 9% | 3% | 1% | 5% | 3% | 0% | 2% |
| 24–26 Oct | Deltapoll/Mirror | GB | 1,017 | 43% | 40% | 6% | 4% | 0% | 5% | 2% | 0% | 3% |
| 22–23 Oct | YouGov/Times | GB | 1,802 | 41% | 36% | 8% | 6% | 4% | 4% | 0% | 5% | |
| 19–22 Oct | Ipsos MORI | GB | 1,044 | 39% | 37% | 10% | 4% | 1% | 5% | 5% | 0% | 2% |
| 14–15 Oct | YouGov/Times | GB | 1,649 | 41% | 36% | 9% | 4% | 4% | 3% | 1% | 5% | |
| 11–15 Oct | Kantar Public | GB | 1,128 | 41% | 36% | 10% | 4% | 1% | 3% | 4% | 1% | 5% |
| 11–12 Oct | Opinium/The Observer | GB | 2,010 | 41% | 37% | 8% | 4% | 1% | 6% | 3% | 1% | 4% |
| 10 Oct | Survation | UK | 1,009 | 40% | 39% | 7% | 4% | N/A | 6% | N/A | 5% | 1% |
| 8–9 Oct | YouGov/Times | GB | 1,647 | 41% | 37% | 9% | 5% | 4% | 3% | 1% | 4% | |
| 3–5 Oct | Opinium/The Observer | GB | 2,007 | 39% | 39% | 7% | 3% | 1% | 6% | 3% | 1% | Tie |
LFF make a valid point
"But a serious point, if you’ll allow: if you wanted to actively undermine a People’s Vote, one way would be to suggest it has less widespread party support than it actually does.What the Liberal Democrats should be doing is helping to unite those Parties calling for a People Vote and showing how this may be brought about. They may even win respect for that,
The party could be forgiven for spinning the truth. But this seems to go past the point of spin – and won’t do any good for Lib Dem attempts to shake of their ‘fibbing’ image, after the tuition fee u-turn during the coalition years.
More than that though, it comes at a time when even the PM is saying ‘no Brexit‘ is on the table. Calls for a ‘People’s Vote’ are likely to grow in all parties over the next few days, as May’s deal crumbles beneath Cabinet resignations…"
They have form on their fibs though
At the last elections the Liberal Democrats in Mark Williams, the Lib Dems’ candidate for Ceredigion , where the main rival party is Plaid, has apologised for Facebook advertisements and leaflets that claimed Plaid Cymru were eeking a “Hard Brexit”.
Williams lost to Plaid's Ben Lake eventually lost and it may well be that this lie contributed to it as voters got fed up with the Lib Dems Fibs.
But this latter development is even worse as it undermines the whole "People Votes" campaign and one thing we don't need is that it is seen by voters as a cynical electoral ploy for one Party's electoral advantage.
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