National Left and the Greens explained.

A recent Blog in which I  tied to point out the price for reform of FIFA could lead to a end of the Welsh Football side and raising the question whether it was a price worth paying has some how developed in the comments section over some recent  blogs  I made welcoming the greendragon to the Welsh Blogosphere.

One commenter claimed the this Blog

had suddenly become insipid and devolutionist, a change that's been noticed since the 'green dragon blog' appeared.

Though they rather kindly later  wrote that they may overstepped the mark although they still find I had been hard reading it of late

So where do I stand on the Welsh Greens?

Firstly I would like them to be like their Scottish cousins a Independent Party and take a similar line on Independence

The Scottish Greens saw most members enthusiastically campaigning for a YES vote though in  December,  last year former convenor Robin Harper said that he would "absolutely vote No" in the independence referendum and offered his backing to the Better Together campaign, putting himself at odds with official party policy and its present leadership. Going on to say that he would like to help the Better Together and that there was a "significant minority" of Greens who were opposed to independence. Uniquely amongst the parties in the Scottish Parliament, the Scottish Green Party is open about and comfortable with the differences of opinion in the party on the constitutional issue, with co-convenor Patrick Harvie pointing out that "even the very firm supporters of independence within the Greens tend to be more strongly motivated by other aspects of our political agenda

However the surge in  Green  Party Membership  in Scotland after the referendum vote  does appear to indicate that members can see a link between a Green agenda and Independence.


I have made it clear that although I am aPlaid Supporter I am not a member and one reason  for this is I want this Blog to be Independent and free to criticise that party when I disagreed. 


I would also sometimes, when I was really unhappy with Plaid to be able to vote for another progressive party.

If I was still living in London my politics would lead me to vote Green as I would in the rest of England .

If i was living Cornwall it would be Mebyon Kernow

In Scotland In UK elections the SNP but in Scottish Parliamentary I  would vote in the constituency fr the SNP but would strongly consider voting Green for the Top uo seats.
In Scotland the SNP look likely to win more constituency seats in the Scottish Parliament in 2016 .  Paradoxically it could mean they lose List seats and lose overall . But these may be made up by increase in Green members . Who else would the SNP  like to gain in such a way

Here if Plaid ever got to the same position to the  SNP in our Assembly then I would seriously consider voting Green on the list.

I remind everyone Plaid and the SNP work together in the European Parliament in the EFA/Green Alliance.

It would be my desire that after 2015 a similar alliance could be working in the Westminster Parliament.


It may be wishful thinking but in the absence of a progressive nationalist movement in England the Greens there can play that role but in their own way,



The Scottish Greens have shown the way forward for their Welsh cousins and don't see it as threat to Plaid but as a spur