Green(s) Bottle it.

Some people have been quick to react to the news that Green Party members in Wales have voted overwhelmingly against a split with the English Green Party with criticism.

But before we single them out , we must remember there is.....

No "Welsh" Labour.
No "Welsh" Conservatives.
No "Welsh " Ukip.


And although The Welsh Liberal Democrats ( is a political party in Wales and a member of the federal Liberal Democrats, along with the Scottish Liberal Democrats and the English Liberal Democrats.can we really say they are an independent party,taking a different path at times from their English colleagues?

As for the English and Welsh Greens the vote  largely reflects how small they are here.

As the BBC reports...

The party leader in Wales, Grenville Ham, had campaigned for plans to set up an independent party similar to the Scottish Greens.
But in a referendum nearly 65% of members rejected the proposal.

Amelia Womack, the deputy leader of the Green Party of England and Wales, said she was proud the party gave its members a say on the issue.
About 20% of the 1,500 members of the Green Party in Wales voted in the poll.

So that about  300 voting and a even more minuscule number voting yes.

Mr Ham said the vote highlighted how the party is

"truly run through grassroots".

"After much good-natured and informed debate within this internal election the membership has decided that staying as part of a larger Green Party is the best way to continue our work as an insurgent force for good,"

Ms Womack said the issue was put to the vote because it was a question that had been raised a number of times.

"I'm sure it's a question we'll bring back to our members in future," she addedUnfortunate for Mr Ham  his grassroots  are a very small patch indeed.

So maybe rather than reflect that 

 

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they were afraid that  they would struggle even harder financially to make an impact .

Arguably the Scottish Greens not all of whom support Independence  then their success has been tied in with the SNP , with a number of voters who do support Independence finding an alternative in Patrick Harvie's party.

There is also the case that a number of Green inclined activist and voters have turned  to Plaid Cymru, and at the monument do not see joining what is a very small party acheving anything,
 


There may even be a majority of Greens in Wales  who see Wales as" a region not a nation", but how different are they from those in Labour in particular. who pretend to stand up for Wales but still take their orders from their London HQ