Saturday, 28 November 2015

If Corbyn is forced to resign then party democracy is dead.

Paul Flynn  seems to be stating a when he claims that Jeremy Corbyn may have to resign as Labour leader if he is seen as a liability to the party, rather than making a call for such a resignation.

Newport West MP Paul Flynn said there were "terrible divisions" in the party, and a "gulf" between the leader and his shadow cabinet.
It would be Mr Corbyn's decision to go, he said, not for MPs to throw him out.
Mr Flynn said he opposed any escalation of war in the Middle East.

Rather than the media coverage  Flynn's Blog seems to be  a case of stating the obvious
 the Leadership Election stunned by humbling the mighty and exalting the meek, but it's time to reboot my crystal ball; both candidates for Leader and Deputy that I nominated in the Labour Leadership Election came last!
No matter – Jeremy Corbyn’s elevation has jump-started the shell-shocked and comatose party into fresh life. His victory has left the Tories more demented than ever in their creation of maniacal, mind-numbing soundbites that irritate like toothache and may surpass the vacuous imbecility of the 'long-term economic strategy' and 'hard-working families'. Will they soon warn that Corbyn's victory will usher in a plague of boils, world famine and the annihilation of the human race?
The scale of the victory has smothered all the objections and excuses that were being incubated beforehand. A majority in all three sectors kills all suggestions of influence by infiltrators or faulty administration. 'New Politics' has arrived, and no longer can any voter say that all parties are the same. Labour with Corbyn in place is distinctive, idealistic, gritty and armed with messages of forceful clarity and freshly minted ideals.
Shadow cabinet members who threatened to resign if Corbyn was elected thought it would discourage votes for him, but now they are trapped, hoisted by their own petards and appear mean-spirited. Corbyn campaigned brilliantly with charm and the common touch. The other three candidates were disappointing, colourless and lacked novelty – only in the last days did they find their mojos.
Corbyn must be given the support his majority deserves. If it does not work out, Labour will not go into another election with a leader who is less popular than the party as we did in 2015, 2010 and 1983.
The party has fallen in love with a principled, authentic partisan of Classic Labour, judging him to be free of the trappings of the now-degraded politics of the past 20 years. The country, likewise, might also be convinced with new popularity for unconventional politicians who break all the rules.
The way ahead for the Parliamentary Labour Party is ONE Leader (no quibbling or back-biting), ONE Party (no splits), ONE Enemy (this awful Government).

But it would be interesting if Paul Flynn and those who are actually calling for Corbyn to go could tell those  who give Corbyn a overwhelming  majority only a few months ago what would happen to thier party if MPs force Corbyn out.

I am not a Labour supporter  but I recognise that  Corbyn is as Flynn says  aa principled, authentic partisan of Classic Labour, judging him to be free of the trappings of the now-degraded politics of the past 20 years.and to remove him against the wishes of the vast membership would be an affront to democracy.

It would mean that Labour's internal democracy is a sham and they might as well restrict such a elections to the Parliamentary Party  or even send someone  to see Rupert Murdoch to see who he wants to be leader of the Labour Party.

Even for those of us who wish Labour in Wales to suffer the same fate as in Scotland and replaced by Plaid surely can't  look on this with glee.


  1. Sad to say that Labour stopped being in any way Democratic a good while ago. Even the Tories have one member one vote, only Labour still have this complicated system which seems to disenfranchised their membership. Thus we had the election of Ed Miliband and in our case Johann Lamont, both put in place because of "votes" cast by Unite.
    I feel though that though Jeremy Corbyn had been an ideal MP he does not seem to be leadership material. He should have realised that the Blairites would revolt, his Defence Secretary has knifed him in the back twice to my knowledge and he should have dealt with her first.
    I am sorry but I look on the fate of ahem, Scottish Labour or as we much prefer Labour in Scotland's demise with glee. They have done nothing with the power they had, they abstain even on their own motions. Many here were dedicated Labour supporters who had their eyes opened during the referendum and realise they are totally useless. They work only for the Party, constituents are merely a waste of their time. They did not knock on doors, too high and mighty for that, and they lost with the system they put into place in both houses. We have just seen another two huge defeats in the Council here in Fife for Labour, on Thursday. Jeremy did the wrong thing in listening to his people here who are unable to get beyond what we call the Bain Principle which is to vote against the SNP at all times, even when it is to their detriment. You can feel sorry for the membership, I do, I fear they have been taken for fools and I think that many will leave if Corbyn goes.

  2. It's worth noting that Flynn did not support Corbyn (he supported Liz Kendall) during the campaign. Let's just hope that the revenge of the red tories and their desire to illegally invade another country shows that party up for the scumbags that they are. There is an election in May, we need shot of their AMs so if their MPs can help us do that then it would be much appreciated.

  3. If the Blarites and British establishment get their way, it’ll be a pyrrhic victory, but like many who want Labour in Wales to suffer a worse fate that it has in Scotland I hope they do manage to force Jeremy Corbyn out and then reap the consequences.

    I’m not convinced Welsh voters won’t still back Labour come what may, but the fallout would do some damage and it’s another step in loosening Labour grip.