Thursday, 25 August 2011

Darren Millar calls for Judge Jeffereys

George Jeffreys, 1st Baron Jeffreys of Wem,  (15 May 1645 – 18 April 1689), also known as "The Hanging Judge"
Tory Clwyd West AM Darren Milla, has claimed that a a four-month sentence on a man who posted an invitation on Facebook to start a riot has been criticised by a Tory assembly member as "too lenient".

David Glyn Jones, 21, of Bangor, Gwynedd, was convicted by Caernarfon magistrates after admitting a charge under the Communications Act.
The court was told that Jones had typed
“Let’s start Bangor riots”. 
I don’t see why everyone’s complaining about the rioters.
“Given the chance I’d love to smash up a police car, wouldn’t you?”
although he removed the posting after 20 minutes, he still received a 4 month sentence, but apparently this was not  enough for Darren Millar,  who said  said he believed Caernarfon magistrates should have been tougher on Jones.

"There needs to be consistency - I don't know why he was charged under a different act," 
"I'm disappointed that he only got four months - I do think the public context overrides other concerns.

Millar seems to believe Jones should have been charged with inciting rioting under the Serious Crime Ac t,which saw  two men from Cheshire jailed for four years at Chester Crown Court.

Lets be clear, David Glyn Jones' posting on Facebook in the midst of the riots that were happening in England was bloody stupid .But did it encite people in Gwynedd to riot? Was anyone incited to join in the riots by text on Blackberries or other social media .Can we really imprison every one who post a stupid remark on the  Social Media?

The mainstream media made much of this even connecting this ti the use of Blackberries  in furthering the spread of the riots portraying it as a perverse form of the alleged use of such media in the dictatorial regimes. But is there any evidence for this? Can you blame 24 hour news instead?

Well just ask yourself how many Rioters had Blackberries or  how many watched 24 hour news and the answer is probably few. although most could have texted .Where is the evidence that people  responded to social media  calls to join in the riots actually did so.

I don't know.But then I don't think anyone else does at the moment. . I do know riots spread well before the onset of Social Media and 24 hour news so I suspect the real influence was less than we are led to believe.

But then is it only those who have called for riots in their area who broke the Communication Act that David Glyn Jones was charged under?  Where there not also calls for vigilante action against those involved in the riots do we prosecute them? The social media including Facebook are full posts that people regret even a few minutes after  pacing them. Are people to be prosecuted just for placing something which they realise not long after was offensive.and remove it and even apologies?

But it is not only the reaction in the social media that could be problematic.

Daily Mail Richard  Littlejohn had written in his column ,,

The police are hamstrung by legislation and terrified of being accused of racism. So it’s hardly surprising that instead of clubbing these looters like baby seals, which is what they deserved, they initially stood back and watched while shops were plundered and homes burned down.

Just wait for the witch hunt against those Manchester officers caught on camera battering a troublemaker to the ground, even though the law-abiding citizens of Manchester and beyond were cheering to the rafters.

Was this not also am incitement to violence in this case by the Police  . Probably not under the Law but it was a dangerous statement which could have provoked people to take out what they saw a summary justice  against the rioters and it  I imagine there were calls for such summery justice on the social media.

Those who were the worst offenders in the Riots rightly should face the full wrath of the Law and  perhaps  thet will in due course but at the moment it does seem that the prosecution are going for the easy to prosecute targets in the initial stages. Could it be that by the time those who had actual instigated the riots are brought to trial the and the public  need  see individuals made examples of. (as Darren Millar called for). would have died down and actual rioters recieve lesser sentances than   David Glyn Jones, who may be an idiot but didn't deseve to be imprisoned.

And we don't need the likes of Darren Millar using the rioters to persue the Tories Hang and Flog them agenda.

1 comment:

  1. Anonymous 8.51.

    I'm afraid I couldn't publish your comment because of it unsubstantiated accusations. I don' doing this but felt I had to delete it sorry.