Tuesday 13 November 2018

If you want to see what the "Senedd" is look around you.

if you seek his monument, look around you (epitaph of Sir Christopher Wren, architect of London)

The BBC report that the  National Assembly for Wales should be renamed Senedd, the presiding officer Elin Jones has said.

The Beeb says
"She has ditched plans for the institution to be renamed to Welsh Parliament, despite the name having been backed in a consultation.
If passed by AMs, the name could come into effect by May 2020.
Her plan followed concerns that Member of the Welsh Parliament could expose politicians to ridicule, because MWP is the first syllable of muppet.
But while Senedd avoids the issue, it has already been criticised because the abbreviation for Member of the Senedd in Welsh would be the same abbreviation for the Welsh version of Member of Parliament.
Proposals would need to be backed by 40 of the 60 AMs.
The move means Assembly Members would be called Member of the Senedd or MS in English, or Aelodau'r Senedd or AS in Welsh.
In Welsh, the name Aelodau'r Senedd is very similar to the name for MPs in Welsh which is Aelodau Seneddol.
The abbreviation AS is identical to the one being proposed for AMs.
Senedd is, both English and Welsh, currently the name of the building in Cardiff Bay that houses the assembly's proceedings.
It is already often used as a shorthand name for the assembly.
Why not use the term  Aelodau'r Senedd  Cymru or ASC  and only that 

The name Dáil Éireann is taken from the Irish language but is the official title of the body in both English and Irish, including both language versions of the Irish constitution. Since the Dáil was first established in 1919, it has also been described variously as a "National Assembly", a "Chamber of Deputies" and a "House of Representatives".
dáil means an assembly or parliament, so a literal translation of Dáil Éireann is "Assembly of Ireland". Article 15 of Ireland's constitution describes the body as "a House of Representatives to be called Dáil Éireann" (Teach Ionadóirí ar a dtugtar Dáil Éireann).

The people of Ireland have no problem in using Dáil Éireann, even if their are in effect monoglot English speakers.
The proposals form part of a bill that is being introduced early next year, which will lower the voting age in assembly elections to 16, change the name of the assembly and make other changes to the way the assembly works
Cardiff South and Penarth MP Stephen Doughty tweeted that the Welsh acronym would be very confusing.
Tory AM and former leader Andrew Davies said: 
"The Welsh public voted on this and wanted Parliament. Mark Drakeford says it best himself when he says his constituents would know what the Welsh Parliament meant, but a lot wouldn't know what Senedd stood for."
 Except that Welsh Labour leadership challenger Mark Drakeford would prefer the name ‘Senedd’ over the Welsh Parliament, and would back eventual Devo-max for Wales.

In an interview with Nation.Cymru he said that the name ‘Welsh Parliament’ implied that Wales was trying to recreate the Westminster Parliament.
“It does in a way, assume that the gold standard has been set somewhere else and what we have to do is recreate our own mini version and I’m not in favor of that,” he said.
“If I had to choose, I’d have to go with the Senedd because I am quite keen that we establish our still very new institution in ways that does not take a preexisting model elsewhere as the sort of template and that we’re always judged against what has gone on somewhere else.”
Elin Jones has also raised the prospect of the Electoral Commission being made accountable to the assembly and financed by the Assembly Commission in relation to devolved elections in Wales.
In a letter to AMs she said this is a proposal that has come from the Electoral Commission and that similar proposals are being considered by the Scottish Government.
 In many ways that seems more important than changing a name I'd wonder how long it would take for Senedd to enter our vocabulary in Wales whatever language we speak , but the way to establish the name is to give it the powers to make it increasingly relevant to the people of Wales daily.

That means parity with Scotland and that is what I would like to come from all the "Welsh" Labour leadership challengers not vague mentions of "Deco-Max".

Indeed it has been the omission  of any clear vision of taking devolution in Wales forward , that seems to unite all candidates.

I started this Blog with the " if you seek his monument, look around you (epitaph of Sir Christopher Wren, architect of London)". quote

Perhaps we should take this as an example to "If you want to see what the Senedd is  look around you".

But only if we had a government worthy of us.



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