Wednesday 18 March 2020

For Labour PR is a bit of a Chicken and Egg thing

Because of the current coronavirus, it is becoming hard to find any political stories to write about  on a daily basis, but I am going to try if only to stop Friends rinigng me to make sure I was not ill.

So I turn to this from Left Foot Forward

Labour leadership contender Lisa Nandy said she opposes anti-Tory electoral pacts but favours proportional representation voting systems as long as every constituency still has a dedicated MP.In a video interview with Left Foot Forward, she said that she and the Labour Party have a lot in common with the Greens but that electoral pacts “cut the public out of the conversation”.
Asked if she might consider an electoral pact with the Greens, Liberal Democrats or Plaid Cymru, she said she had “I’ve never been hugely enthused by the idea of doing deals behind closed doors”.
Noticeably the SNP were not included although they would probably have the most "Anti-Tories" MP after  Labour.
People in parts of the country who have never had a Labour MP often feel very strongly that they want to vote Labour, she said.
On proportional representation, she said: “It’s something the Greens feel incredibly strongly about for obvious reasons,”. At the last election, the Tories got 22 times as many MPs per vote as the Greens did.Nandy said that First Past the Post “needlessly divides” people from one another. “When you stand for election,” she said, “you’re standing not just against the Tories or the Brexit Party but you’re standing against people who, particularly the Greens and climate change, on a whole range of issues you might really really agree with.”
However, she said that the constituency link – which means every constituency has a dedicated MP – is really important. This can be lost in some more proportional voting systems.
Nandy said one of the reasons that the constituency link was important was that her role as MP for Wigan meant she could see the Brexit vote coming and understand what was behind it – which wasn’t racism but 40 years of decline and a desire for control.
She did not mention a particular voting system she favoured but the Single Transferable Vote and Additonal Member Systems are more proportional than First Past the Post while also retaining a constituency link.
I don't think it is possible to have a constituency link as  it is now  except,  under the Alternative Vote System which was rejected in a referendum nine years ago.
She also said that, to introduce proportional representation, Labour would have to get into government under the current system. “There’s no substitute for winning the argument,” she said.
But to get into government Labour would as it is now have to form an electoral pact of progressive parties . It's a bit of a Chicken and Egg thing.

It would necessitate Manifesto pledges as you can have no doubt of Labour were to win a majority of seats ,under First Past the Post they would suddenly change their minds.

One such pledge would have to be an second referendum  Probably unsurprisingly given that Nandy was not a supporter or either the 2016 referendum on the EU or a mooted second one, she does not support another public vote on this issue believing referedums to be divisive. However, she says that she wouldn’t block a second referendum if “that’s what the overwhelming majority of people wanted.” But she does not believe there is evidence to support this.
How will she know , A Majority of SNPs  at Westminsterf from Scotland? A Majority SNP (or Independence supporter) government in Holyrood? or Oppinion Polls showing support.

That's the case Now!

She sees that the Labour Party have struggled with the question of independence, where Labour gets caught between two stalls between the pro-independence SNP and the pro-union Tories. But Nandy believes that towns (and we wouldn’t have got through an hour of Nandy talk without that word!) in Scotland have more in common with towns in the north and even south of England than with big cities.

Yes and in Ireland, France ,Germany , OH  and Australia , Japan the list goes on for ever.
The Truth is Lisa Nandy is Unionist and only supports PR when the chances of Labour winning  a majority in Westminster are currently slim.
The other Labour contenders also offer little else on such mattters, but at least they are not going on about towns.

Nandy has been involved in the think tank Compass, which supports cross-party left-wing co-operation, and co-wrote a book with Green MP Caroline Lucas and Lib Dem Chris Bowers in 2016 which had a chapter about proportional representation.

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