tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post8515208558070810354..comments2023-08-19T16:44:23.150+01:00Comments on National Left: Burning Bethan.glynbeddauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09933352430631144936noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-35114676525780983352012-06-29T08:32:48.401+01:002012-06-29T08:32:48.401+01:00Most of the comments seem to be on Bethan personal...Most of the comments seem to be on Bethan personality not the grist of her twitter statement. I have expanded on my views on the problem of Republican response to meeting Royalty today (29/06/2012).<br /><br />We need to discuss how we should respond and how appropriate this should be.We certainly should not be silent.glynbeddauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933352430631144936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-62171193929032378692012-06-28T17:01:48.361+01:002012-06-28T17:01:48.361+01:00I think that Inside Out put her comments in the co...I think that <b>Inside Out</b> put her comments in the correct perspective (http://insideoutswansea.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/stuck-on-fringe.html). Whatever the merits involved, her comments were inappropriate and ill-timed. The test here is whether she learns from the experience. Withdrawing temporarily from Twitter is meaningless if she is only going to go back later and make the same mistakes.Artoriousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-8289018365523301492012-06-28T15:21:53.277+01:002012-06-28T15:21:53.277+01:00I feel for Leanne Wood who made a genuinely master...I feel for Leanne Wood who made a genuinely masterful speech on the Queen recently where she kept her principles and didn't fall for Labour's trap. Please can we stop making ourselves easy targets for the cynical Labour party! It can be done, they aren't geniuses. They are just opportunists and will exploit any loophole or any weakness. This kind of thing deflates morale and scrubs out the efforts Leanne has been making.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-23756040556864562782012-06-27T18:36:31.834+01:002012-06-27T18:36:31.834+01:00It was maybe a little naive but you also have to t...It was maybe a little naive but you also have to take into account just how spineless and pathetic Labour are that they will jump on these comments with everything they have in some sort of childish point scoring excercise.<br /><br />If we, as a people weren't even more spineless and pathetic then it would be laughable, as is it's quite tragic.<br /><br />Plaid needs to seriously up it's game. Labours destruction is there for the taking, they just need to start making the economic case for more powers and eventual independence. Show the people that Labour have never done anything for us and that Labour are actively undermining the the already fragile Welsh economy and holding us back.Welsh not Britishhttp://www.welshnotbritish.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-38162835997397813462012-06-27T18:03:23.255+01:002012-06-27T18:03:23.255+01:00Perhaps you should take the lack of support for Be...Perhaps you should take the lack of support for Bethan as true Glyn, she’s certainly rubbed plenty of people up the wrong way and made lots of enemies since she was elected. She good at self promotion and not a lot else.<br /><br />As others have noted Bethan and her supporters are not liked and she’s considered a joke in the Assembly including within Plaid Cymru’s ranks. Leanne doesn’t need any more idiots providing Labour with readymade ammunition when she is trying to turn the party around and fight Wales’s corner.<br /><br />Lest we forget Plaid Cymru changed the rules and sacrificed Dai Lloyd for her, she’s nearly 31 and still acting like a spoilt child, something reinforced by her comments on Martin McGuinness which weren’t simply naive but incredibly damaging to the Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-53165685586852139522012-06-27T17:48:32.801+01:002012-06-27T17:48:32.801+01:00Just because something is true doesn't mean a ...Just because something is true doesn't mean a politician has to say it. Of course, Bethan is right to suggest McGuinness is 'naive'. A vital role that McGuinness has, is to carry the political will of the republican community, all politicians need to ensure they are kept in touch with the community and principles they represent. The threat to the peace process is not from a Welsh AM, or Labour, or the Queen but from those rioting last night in Belfast. McGuinness needs to carry the republican community to give him credibility. It IS naive to put this in jeopardy by a token handshake at a charity event. Question is, who, and whether or not to say it in public. The Irish press is also questioning the McGuinness gesture, not through a critique of the peace process, but a comment on his all-Ireland political goals. He was a presidential candidate for Sinn Féin the republic and seeks international prestige. Nothing to do with the peace process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-11300702730799888812012-06-27T17:15:27.393+01:002012-06-27T17:15:27.393+01:00I'm a PLaid member, and I'm afraid I think...I'm a PLaid member, and I'm afraid I think that she's a pointless gesture politician whose immaturity is bad for the party and makes her and her leader look unready for any kind of office. <br />The Labour party in Wales are a nasty vicious bunch, and if she's going to say silly and naive things on Twitter then she should have the guts to fight back and not run away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-74386768028023033272012-06-27T10:59:44.792+01:002012-06-27T10:59:44.792+01:00Social media is also a minefield, it makes every p...Social media is also a minefield, it makes every politician look like an independent if they use it that way, promoting individualism and vanity wich can overide collective entity of any given party. Feel sorry for her being attacked by Labour though. <br /><br />'Totally naive' and 'making them British' rankled with me as they seem pretty careless and not thought through considering situation in Ireland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-9065826485318186102012-06-27T08:13:06.907+01:002012-06-27T08:13:06.907+01:00I think its more her attitude that has got under p...I think its more her attitude that has got under peoples skin. There is track here of lack of mature thought<br />In a situation as fragile as Ireland it doesn't take much to get months of work undermined. Silly arrogant remarks are not helpful,<br />Ms Jenkins can dish it out and has done so along with her supporters,many many times.If you do that you have to expect to get it back. That's just what has happened. I have read the various comments and don't see where they are anything but showing peoples concerns over how an elected politician needs to be more thought driven and grown up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com