tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post2392750491316883148..comments2023-08-19T16:44:23.150+01:00Comments on National Left: Are Plaid Failing to Capitlise On Anglesey Success?glynbeddauhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09933352430631144936noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-27940617519268055892013-05-07T16:19:01.401+01:002013-05-07T16:19:01.401+01:00Agree with Owen. And his comment is the key to ans...Agree with Owen. And his comment is the key to answering Anon 13:12. Plaid underperformed on Ynys Mon in the past because of independents being stronger. The independents have been weakened by scandal, so Plaid's emphasis in the campaign was on having a political party run council.<br /><br />So it is all about doing what's right for Anglesey. Plaid and Labour coalition is the only way you can have a political party run council. And I would invite the 1 Lib Dem in as well as he'd be the "safest" independent. There are 5 newly elected independents but they're not a bloc and don't all sing off the same hymn sheet.<br /><br />That means if we want the old boys network gone, Plaid-Labour is in fact the only option. I don't know about the Vale of Glam but Plaid and Labour are ideologically quite close in the north-west, and are in coalition in Gwynedd and Conwy. <br /><br />Independent councillors in rural Wales are completely over-rated. They're a bastion of conservatism, parochialism and inefficiency. Having political parties in charge gives a sense of discipline and stability. You can still be independently minded and stand under a party political banner, but the party groupings (on Ynys Mon especially) need to be consistent and predictable and not have people swapping sides every other month. A party-run council is the only way to get that and it simply has to be Green-Red.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-7630700603088154122013-05-05T13:12:21.936+01:002013-05-05T13:12:21.936+01:00Why should Plaid go into coalition with Labour? La...Why should Plaid go into coalition with Labour? Labour went into a coalition with right wing independents in the Vale of Glamorgan and not Plaid, surely Anglesesy needs to do what is right for Anglesey not looking towards 2016, sounds a tad bit opportunist to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2133809191630290599.post-42752219535050728532013-05-05T12:20:58.060+01:002013-05-05T12:20:58.060+01:00The problem is if Plaid made a lot out of this one...The problem is if Plaid made a lot out of this one, it's fair to say they wouldn't be able to brush aside big failures in other local authority contests elsewhere in Wales.<br /><br />It no doubt a good result for Plaid and a morale-booster, but I think they've got the balance right in terms of their response. It's only one contest and I doubt it'll have any bearing on next year's Euro elections, 2015 or 2016.<br /><br />On UKIP, you would've expected them to hoover up any "anti-politics" vote, and that should apply on Anglesey more than any other part of Wales. They did very poorly considering that.<br /><br />However, they still have an MEP, and I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed Plaid out next year if Plaid don't get their vote out. They need to be careful they don't come to eat those words. Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04347494808853759106noreply@blogger.com